tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post436553076127786542..comments2023-10-28T17:24:41.752+05:00Comments on Cafe Pyala: Familiarity Breeds....XYZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-32165123061091633212010-11-06T13:59:28.179+05:002010-11-06T13:59:28.179+05:00I am not surprised that they ET would do shoddy jo...I am not surprised that they ET would do shoddy journalism. HOWEVER printing the same FOUR pages on two consecutive days makes one wonder whether the editors and others at ET even read the "newspaper" they want others to pay money to read!<br /><br />Mistakes happen but not of this EPIC magnitude. Maybe it is time to hire real journalists and not just fresh-from-A-Levels-with-3-Cs?<br /><br /><br />And yes while you are at it, remember as a PAKISTANI newspaper, most potential BUYERS of ET do not expect and like rabidly anti-Pak opinion pieces. <br /><br />Express Tribune has a lot of potential but it can only do so if it does not indulge in dissing the country where it publishes its newspaper.not a fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-74955794120684542012010-10-28T22:58:46.342+05:002010-10-28T22:58:46.342+05:00Hey Pyala,
How about a post on ET's new move:...Hey Pyala,<br /><br />How about a post on ET's new move: an arbitrator and ombudsman. I would say it's a good move for the media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-79085752590309875032010-10-22T11:19:42.770+05:002010-10-22T11:19:42.770+05:00Interesting!Interesting!Mohammadhttp://www.rtipakistan.com/index.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-30107839295110643382010-10-19T16:56:34.987+05:002010-10-19T16:56:34.987+05:00I should take the opportunity to point out, not ne...I should take the opportunity to point out, not necessarily in defense of ET but just to put things in perspective, that i myself saw an edition of the venerable New York Times that committed an even more amusing blooper on its *front page*. It was back in the early 90s. There was the lead story under its headline, and right next to it, the second story's headline, underneath which was the un-edited version of the lead story. Was hilarious, but also quite instructive to see how the story was edited :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-49285898515867646832010-10-19T14:58:23.897+05:002010-10-19T14:58:23.897+05:00Dear All,
once again I fear the comments are abou...Dear All,<br /><br />once again I fear the comments are about to descend into personal attacks, so let's just stop with that right now.<br /><br />For what it's worth, personally, I was amused with the gaffe but I don't think anyone on the staff in their right minds would cause this to happen deliberately. It seems exactly what ET said in its apology the next day - a production error -and neither the editors or the publisher is directly responsible for it, though of course they end up taking the blame for it as overall heads of the paper. Ok, someone in the production chain <i>should</i> have picked up on it and that is all we were trying to point out.<br /><br />Let's not make this into an excuse to bash up individuals.XYZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-79816852050499543332010-10-19T14:41:24.503+05:002010-10-19T14:41:24.503+05:00Poooorrr Kamal!Poooorrr Kamal!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-91387137717033529712010-10-19T14:11:50.628+05:002010-10-19T14:11:50.628+05:00Dear Anonymous sahib,
No one is denying that a gr...Dear Anonymous sahib,<br /><br />No one is denying that a grave error was committed -- and hence the front page apology -- zara post ko ghor say parhh liya karain Anonymous sahib.<br /><br />Also, sir, sins -- by editors and others -- are committed in all news organisations -- so no point getting into that -- and often editors pay for them as well -- <br /><br /><br />From what I know, many journalists associated with ET are quite happy, by and large, with their association -- it would be pointless to challenge the last point, anonymous sahib, since one doesn't know who you are -- so what you write here on the paper itself would be, as they say, 'khayalee pulao'<br /><br /><br /><br />Regards,<br />Omar R QuraishiOmar R Quraishihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571023775558659727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-41915439161527702992010-10-19T13:33:13.161+05:002010-10-19T13:33:13.161+05:00Dear Omar R Quraishi sahib
It does not matter tha...Dear Omar R Quraishi sahib<br /><br />It does not matter that:<br />a) similar gaffes have occurred before in other publications.<br /><br />b) it was four and not two pages that were reprinted.<br /><br />c) the pages were fine (or not) in other stations...<br /><br />... a bhand is a bhand is a bhand is a bhand!<br /><br />To paraphrase an old Pakistani ad for 'Emex fairness cream', "Kal kee nahin, aaj kee baat karo, Express Tribune ki baat karo!"<br /><br />P.S. Although I'm beside myself with amusement, you have to feel sorry for the (not-so-)poor journos who are associated with ET and who have to take flak for the sins of their editors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-17038208473355394682010-10-18T23:15:24.870+05:002010-10-18T23:15:24.870+05:00Can i get my money back! I should not have to pay...Can i get my money back! I should not have to pay for the same news twice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-10273423587295527722010-10-18T19:30:55.482+05:002010-10-18T19:30:55.482+05:00hahahaha
thas something lolhahahaha<br />thas something lolAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06430886783312152859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-45282623455861910962010-10-18T17:33:53.838+05:002010-10-18T17:33:53.838+05:00wow, that is a pretty big gaffe, even for a techni...wow, that is a pretty big gaffe, even for a technical failure, but that said, it happens....well thankfully not very often. <br /><br />but yes, i expect Bilal Lakhani and Kamal Siddiqi did get rather pissed.Alpha Zahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09940520964761065276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-81806895553580855692010-10-18T17:11:14.294+05:002010-10-18T17:11:14.294+05:00xyz -- with due respect -- this happened with FOUR...xyz -- with due respect -- this happened with FOUR (including two national pages) and NOT two pages -- something for which we issued an apology today -- because of a production error -- in lahore the pages were fine -- of course this can hardly be defended - but your readers should know the facts -- esp since some of you, by your admission, have been or are journalists<br /><br />also, for the record, relations between me and Kamal are good -- he has been a friend for almost 15 years and prior to this we have been colleagues at Dawn and The News<br /><br />Further, I think this has happened at least once with another Pakistani newspaper as well -- I dont want to get into names but it has -- and again, that is no defence -- but your readers should know the facts <br /><br />Omar R Quraishi<br />Editorial Pages Editor<br />The Express TribuneOmar R Quraishihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571023775558659727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-2733149797318105532010-10-18T16:11:54.589+05:002010-10-18T16:11:54.589+05:00No matter who does it on what (personal) grounds b...No matter who does it on what (personal) grounds but it affects their credibility. as for as NEWS is concerned it also repeats news items. who cares!!!!ishaque anjumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-31985490126620937372010-10-18T15:11:13.445+05:002010-10-18T15:11:13.445+05:00@mukhi: Hahahahahah!@mukhi: Hahahahahah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-64502799073729272972010-10-18T15:05:24.134+05:002010-10-18T15:05:24.134+05:00They didn't realize there were people actually...They didn't realize there were people actually paying attentionMukhinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-36727813734146576752010-10-18T12:49:46.024+05:002010-10-18T12:49:46.024+05:00its orq, omar qureishi who looks after the op-ed p...its orq, omar qureishi who looks after the op-ed pages. wonder if he did it on purpose since relations between him and kamal siddiqi have been really bad lately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-50990166599350243792010-10-18T11:41:11.422+05:002010-10-18T11:41:11.422+05:00A truly FML moment in Bilal Lakhani and Kamal Sidd...A truly FML moment in Bilal Lakhani and Kamal Siddiqi's life. EPIC FAIL!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08490348781308757156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-89514576452164706752010-10-17T21:25:34.242+05:002010-10-17T21:25:34.242+05:00Why is it that EVERY time there is a post poking f...Why is it that EVERY time there is a post poking fun at the Express Tribune, a lot of whiny fans start becoming defensive and accusing Cafe Pyala of bias? I mean when a paper actually REPEATS its editorial pages two days running is CP meant to laud its efforts for screwing up? <br /><br />Do these ET trolls never read the other posts here, most of which (rightfully)rip the Jang Group and many others to shreds with unfailing regularity?<br /><br />I know life is not easy for ageing adolescents on some obscure Khayaban in the wilds of DHA, but can you please, please grow up now and learn to shrug off criticism like all the rest?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-88982685491185447942010-10-17T21:04:08.275+05:002010-10-17T21:04:08.275+05:00I have never seen any other newspaper make any mis...I have never seen any other newspaper make any mistake of this sort..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-60847357736782050152010-10-17T19:08:53.923+05:002010-10-17T19:08:53.923+05:00It's Groundhog day. Again.It's Groundhog day. Again.Anthony Mitchellhttp://mitchell.imnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-10108346184716790152010-10-17T18:51:44.388+05:002010-10-17T18:51:44.388+05:00I think there is a bias here, The News makes these...I think there is a bias here, The News makes these sort of mistakes all the time.Umer Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-2773665314351077552010-10-17T18:28:20.864+05:002010-10-17T18:28:20.864+05:00HAHAHA. OMG. At least they made history.HAHAHA. OMG. At least they made history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-62422526881150663082010-10-17T17:44:15.781+05:002010-10-17T17:44:15.781+05:00Maybe because they haven't done it yet?Maybe because they haven't done it yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-23336715280638374852010-10-17T16:43:11.223+05:002010-10-17T16:43:11.223+05:00Why does Cafe Pyala never do snarky posts when The...Why does Cafe Pyala never do snarky posts when The Dawn or The News reprints yesterday's entire op-ed pages dates and all, huh, why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-9868397044455669882010-10-17T16:33:34.166+05:002010-10-17T16:33:34.166+05:00*waits for ET's op-ed head to give a 'as t...*waits for ET's op-ed head to give a 'as the op-ed head, i can tell you...' excuse*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com