tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post5219271380548070116..comments2023-10-28T17:24:41.752+05:00Comments on Cafe Pyala: 'Raymond Davis' - FAQXYZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-57033482370032767442011-03-03T14:06:46.569+05:002011-03-03T14:06:46.569+05:00off topic but what are they talking about?
Muhamm...off topic but what are they talking about?<br /><br />Muhammad Hafeez and Ahmed Shehzad are opening for the Pakistan batting line up, over bowled by Khurram Chohan.<br /><br />Pakistan have so far won both their matches this tournament against Kenya and Zimbabwe. Canada have lost both their matches against Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, but have gained inspiration from Wednesday’s upset when Ireland defeated England in a thrilling match at the Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bangalore.<br /><br />http://tribune.com.pk/story/126841/canada-vs-pakistan-live-updates/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-18232972537779787282011-03-02T00:28:48.700+05:002011-03-02T00:28:48.700+05:00My, my. Did someone go ballistic? Did someone thre...My, my. Did someone go ballistic? Did someone threaten you or what CP?Annienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-19377911446180691382011-03-02T00:25:23.096+05:002011-03-02T00:25:23.096+05:00A former British ambassador speaks up:
http://www....A former British ambassador speaks up:<br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/feb/28/cia-agent-diplomat-pakistan-raymond-davisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-14216137107233614092011-03-01T10:31:35.993+05:002011-03-01T10:31:35.993+05:00Please read this article on diplomatic immunity, i...Please read this article on diplomatic immunity, in The Independent.<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/feb/28/cia-agent-diplomat-pakistan-raymond-davis?CMP=twt_gu<br /><br />Vienna convention was not written by idiots. And it is pretty clear that Raymond Davis DOES NOT have diplomatic cover. <br /><br />However you can go ahead and work to save that USAID money that your brother's job depends upon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-16880223801452315732011-02-27T17:51:16.662+05:002011-02-27T17:51:16.662+05:00Being a liberal Pakistani, I occasionally glance a...Being a liberal Pakistani, I occasionally glance at one of the 'liberal' Pakistani blogs. However, I'm disappointed by attitude of XYZ on this issue. <br /><br />This attitude is typified by the following statement:<br /><br />"It really does not matter what I, or anyone else, may want. "<br /><br />So XYZ can have an opinion on every social issue under the sun but has no comments on this particular issue other than support the official American drivel that diplomats can cause carnage in a foreign country and get away with it?Pakistaninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-862228575447584992011-02-26T05:03:00.382+05:002011-02-26T05:03:00.382+05:00The problem with politics in Pakistan is that Gove...The problem with politics in Pakistan is that Governments, when faced with difficult decisions, prefer to conduct trials by media without thinking of the long term ramifications.<br />In the short term, the Davis affair will reap rich benefits for the right wingers and even the "establishment". In the long term, this is going to cause serious problems because once the rabid right wingers realise that they have much more power than they thought before..... the dramas will really begin. <br />I agree with the author and especially on one point.... the Vienna convention needs to be respected.... because if not, then the next time a Cheema is found guilty, Pakistan will have no leg to stand on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-49381033192424974252011-02-26T01:55:27.394+05:002011-02-26T01:55:27.394+05:00Yes, yes and yes!
a) We should look into the cir...Yes, yes and yes! <br /><br />a) We should look into the circumstances that have brought us to this place in time. Why and under whose policies was Mr. Davis in Pakistan to begin with. <br /><br />b) What are the conditions that necessitated his entrance into the country, to conduct his "nefarious" designs<br /><br />c) Seriously, the Taliban must hate Pakistani medias guts. They do so much to display their ruthlessness, and then we take their actions and blame it on America. Raymond Davis to be exact. <br /><br />d) This is exactly why our civil service and bureaucracy need to be strengthened. Everything in Pakistan is open to legal interpretation, and everyone is scared to draw a line in the sand. Those claiming that Pakistani law must prevail are assuming that the outcome will satisfy their lust for revenge. Justice is blind, what if the courts set him free? Are we so emotionally charged that we will then turn on the courts as well?TightDhotihttp://tightdhoti.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-12817810722072022782011-02-26T00:41:25.193+05:002011-02-26T00:41:25.193+05:00Great write-up. It's unfortunately that our po...Great write-up. It's unfortunately that our population, or a vast majority of it, has lost any semblance of critical thinking, and one must boil it down to point form explaining everything in black and white to get the point across.<br /><br />I personally was in fact confused about the asking for immunity, and then requirement for being granted immunity by the foreign office. As i figure after reading this, as long as the embassy sent in papers asking for immunity, the onus is on pakistan to explicitly deny it by actions such as requesting them to remove this person from pakistan. if they did not take this action then it clearly obvious that they lapsed in judgment at the time and are now covering their bases due to popular sentiment. One caveat though I think is that the embassy will have to show some proof of the FO receiving the letter, whether its a delivery confirmation or a letter sent back to embassy acknowledging receipt via a stamp or other means, otherwise there would be nothing stopping the embassy from backdating a letter today and using it as proof of immunity.<br /><br />I think the matter really is very very simple. Whether we like the solution or not is inconsequential, but if immunity exists it must be obeyed. its oxymoronic that our politicians and populace have suddenly relied on the courts to solve the case, which supposedly should somehow show how strong pakistan is, and it will stand up against american arrogance and that our court of law will triumph and show how independent it is. but if anything it demonstrates how weak the law situation is in pakistan and the extent of political selfishness that we need to revert to such drama to solve simple problems.<br /><br />quite simply, if A is true, then B follows, and the conclusion is C. If the americans can prove without doubt that they sent a letter to pakistani FO stating davis as embassy staff initially(and while approval by FO is not necessary as you say, i am sure they will need to show somehow that the pakistani Fo acknowledged receipt, otehrwise there is nothing stopping them from backdating a letter today and presenting it), and if the pakistani's were complicit by not denying the request, then the case is closed. <br /><br />its unfortunate when the courts do their job and if they free him, standing up to popular sentiment, there will be quite an uproar by the people and suddenly the courts will be scrutinized and fingers pointed for being influenced by the americans.zankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02750424498111694816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-51174244236738297442011-02-26T00:23:01.548+05:002011-02-26T00:23:01.548+05:00BZ,
Talking of Mr. Sethi (I mean Mr. Najam Sethi)...BZ,<br /><br />Talking of Mr. Sethi (I mean Mr. Najam Sethi), has anyone observed a fundamental change in his views since he moved to GEO? On his Apas Ki Baat on Feb 23, he sounds more like a Zaid Hamid or Orya Maqbool Jan, with his cock and bull narrative about the US and its institutions. Is this yet another sign of Pakistan veering alarmingly off-course?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-20397344891150646062011-02-25T23:47:36.085+05:002011-02-25T23:47:36.085+05:00@BZ, hmmm you got me thinking, and I agree with yo...@BZ, hmmm you got me thinking, and I agree with you.Dost Mohammadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-37128754501829801552011-02-25T23:40:21.761+05:002011-02-25T23:40:21.761+05:00Wow! The FAQ is amazing. It is just that the tone ...Wow! The FAQ is amazing. It is just that the tone is qualitatively different from your earlier posts on this issue. Here you are a bit exasperated, a little apologetic, and a lot more logical and rational than you were, for example, in your post that had unqualified praises for Mr. Sethi on RD.BZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-74070449097611800162011-02-25T22:53:21.803+05:002011-02-25T22:53:21.803+05:00Hi "Taliban Said",
Why don't you ta...Hi "Taliban Said",<br /><br />Why don't you take off the turban for a while? You are cooking your own brain, my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-8506320411700778522011-02-25T22:42:15.401+05:002011-02-25T22:42:15.401+05:00XYZ,
What's up with all this dark blue font 0...XYZ,<br /><br />What's up with all this dark blue font 0n a pitch black background? Hard to read!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-83773792772601567572011-02-25T22:33:28.479+05:002011-02-25T22:33:28.479+05:00XYZ OR ABC ROSHAN KHAYAL :P
Are you sure you guys...XYZ OR ABC ROSHAN KHAYAL :P<br /><br />Are you sure you guys are not deleting the comment :P<br /><br />I mean if you are doing something atleast ACCEPT IT like a man or woman ...whatever you are :P<br /><br />Even a blind folded ROSHAN KHAYAL can see that you are deleting specifically my comments...<br /><br />PROOF = some dumb thing tried to answer me but since my comment was deleted so i wasnt in position to say anything. <br />IF ITS A GLITCH ...MY COMMENT SHOULD NOT BE PUBLISHED IN FIRST PLACE.....:P<br />you can fool non-techy persons...but let me assure you bro..i know web more than you :P<br /><br /><br />i mean i tried three times to post my comment and some ROSHAN KHAYAL deleted it.but then it was a "GLITCH" :P<br /><br />hahaha LIBERALS :P<br /><br />After all since you are a ROSHAN KHAYAL<br /><br />.<br />so lets start with obsession :P<br /><br />80 percent of your blog posts main idea is to CURSE, DEFAME and CRITICIZE every other anchor, ISI or any person talking something about Pakistan :P <br />Whoever dont have a ROSHAN KHAYAL MIND like you has....is a target of your blog...<br /><br />well no doubt this isnt obsession but ROSHAN KAHAYLI :P<br /><br />You are continuously trying to prove that your LORD RAYMOND DAVIS has diplomatic immunity...when Foreign Ministers & Ministry itself are not sure....<br /><br />Again this isnt obsession but ROSHAN KAHYALI :P<br /><br />lying to your readers that you arent deleting comments when YOU ARE...<br /><br />this certainly is ROSHAN KHAYLI Sir :P<br /><br />Trolls & Anonymous arent much different btw :P<br /><br />talking bout FABRICATION & ASSUMPTIONS....<br /><br />YOUR WHOLE CONTENT is based on the information searched from internet<br />especially FOREIGN MEDIA plus your OWN ROSHAN KHAYAL PERSPECTIVE... which obviously isnt a fact but certainly is ROSHAN KHAYALI :P<br /><br />NON TOPIC COMMEMNTS = <br />your definition of NON TOPIC COMMENT is "any comment which contains facts or has better answer to your article" is non topic and should be deleted... :P<br /><br />@moronic statements by trolls on this blog<br /><br />If a person don't agree to your point immediately and accepts whatever you say...say every bad word to him, known to human kind. THIS IS ROSHAN KHAYALI ...<br />THIS IS A LIBERAL :PTalibannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-91201667026925795752011-02-25T20:59:22.083+05:002011-02-25T20:59:22.083+05:00@Dost Mohammad: Just to clarify, by no means am I ...<b>@Dost Mohammad:</b> Just to clarify, by no means am I calling all readers trolls. I think people can tell who the trolls are: they are the ones who post the same or similar comments in all posts (and go around looking for other similar blogs to post on as well), and whose comments usually have nothing to do with the content of the posts themselves but rather their own preconceived ideological notions. I have no problem with comments that disagree with or question my positions, as long as those comments are argued on the basis of facts rather than fabrications and assumptions about us.XYZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-44040334148712211942011-02-25T20:18:32.788+05:002011-02-25T20:18:32.788+05:00XYZ,
Really sorry if that was the case...XYZ,<br /> Really sorry if that was the case and yes it might be a glitch. But my compliments for the excellent write up, but to be honest I really did not like your calling your readers comments "moronic statements by trolls on this blog"Dost Mohammadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-47011088746515213792011-02-25T20:05:39.704+05:002011-02-25T20:05:39.704+05:00Folks,
we have not removed ANY comments in a long...Folks,<br /><br />we have not removed ANY comments in a long long time. Please don't jump to conclusions. If we ever do, we say why. There is some glitch in Blogger which may be causing it. Strangely, even the comments that disappear do turn up in our emails notifications.XYZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-35749754781178207822011-02-25T19:59:10.341+05:002011-02-25T19:59:10.341+05:00controversial posts may attract a particularly str...controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts — hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29<br />Gosh XYZ, why you had to remove my earlier comment, how come?, really I enjoy your posts but going trough censor on your blog? I find that laughable.Dost Mohammadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-3881596148149147312011-02-25T19:47:45.815+05:002011-02-25T19:47:45.815+05:00Too much inbreeding results in the sort of populat...Too much inbreeding results in the sort of population that we have today in Mamlikat Allahbakhsh Pakistan. :-PBolshevikhttp://www.uroojzia.com/work/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-27391747152085562522011-02-25T19:42:30.697+05:002011-02-25T19:42:30.697+05:00controversial posts may attract a particularly str...controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from "those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts — hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29Dost Mohammadnoreply@blogger.com