tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post7110490033818691789..comments2023-10-28T17:24:41.752+05:00Comments on Cafe Pyala: The Real BlasphemersXYZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-8288914408700166632011-01-12T01:53:54.184+05:002011-01-12T01:53:54.184+05:00Cafe Pyala.
so, "Freedom of speech", is...Cafe Pyala.<br /><br />so, "Freedom of speech", is that what you want to prevail in Pakistan. I wanna know how did you react to the Sketch blasphemy day celebrated by facebook and various anti-islamic organizations!?Taha Javaidhttp://www.taha.javaid.over-blog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-91869818366689506542011-01-09T20:56:26.807+05:002011-01-09T20:56:26.807+05:00By not attending the funereal of Ex Governor ST ...By not attending the funereal of Ex Governor ST PML N clearly supported Fanatics and supported the culpritAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-64907636215012607702011-01-09T16:08:50.959+05:002011-01-09T16:08:50.959+05:00Well said, that man.
I had never heard of Salmaan...Well said, that man.<br /><br />I had never heard of Salmaan Taseer before this week but it looks as though the whole world will remember him now and the cause he died for.Mariehttp://fettlereetly.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-30592506191513999932011-01-08T06:13:54.851+05:002011-01-08T06:13:54.851+05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Palakkad Mani Iyerhttp://wikipedia.com/Palakkadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-9507447241815918332011-01-08T06:13:54.433+05:002011-01-08T06:13:54.433+05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Palakkad Mani Iyerhttp://wikipedia.com/Palakkadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-40120110726518757822011-01-07T04:05:40.903+05:002011-01-07T04:05:40.903+05:00@Asif Ali:
What's with your ilk that rambles...@Asif Ali: <br /><br />What's with your ilk that rambles on about "liberal extremism" like a fucking broken record player, and yet fails to find any evidence of violence or incitement to violence by these extremists? Grow a brain, mate!Anandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-1109242678404873572011-01-07T02:07:07.407+05:002011-01-07T02:07:07.407+05:00I think Shaheed Salman Taseer has become a hatred ...I think Shaheed Salman Taseer has become a hatred for those who want to prove themselves so called Islamic but I consider them Blasphemers cause they are blood thirsty and use Prophet’s name for human killing. Taseer sahab will stay alive in our society in form of courage to speak against intolerance and religious extremism.<br />A day will come, we will see a change, laws will be amended, that day will be Taseer’s day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-72737636433147111232011-01-06T19:12:40.873+05:002011-01-06T19:12:40.873+05:00Since the humanisation of people has reached such ...Since the humanisation of people has reached such a stage that e hairy barbarian lunatics can only satiate their bloodlust through sheer acts of terror and are actually praised for it. I for one would like the Pak state to legalise murder once an for all. <br /><br />Lets c how the men-with-giant-beards handle the wrath of the masses they hve been terrorising for sooo long!Enigmatic Desiresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-42515580626243851472011-01-06T17:09:09.791+05:002011-01-06T17:09:09.791+05:00Kudos to the anonymous trolls, gutless does as gut...Kudos to the anonymous trolls, gutless does as gutless is.<br /><br />It is sad to see a righteous man brought down by a coward acting in the name of God. The coward will find his just deserts when he is judged for his crimes at the end of his days, and will spend eternity lying with the bodies of the pigs and dogs in the filth he made.<br /><br />Taseer's name, his honour and his just deeds will live for eternity as a lesson to the filth spewed forth by his detractors. Those that fear the just and the right like Taseer, have only the tree of Zaqqum to look forward too.Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070224221261869022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-29515166012150960412011-01-06T16:53:52.870+05:002011-01-06T16:53:52.870+05:00Props for words well said =D!Props for words well said =D!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-57715977641605694512011-01-06T15:10:56.148+05:002011-01-06T15:10:56.148+05:00The people living in Pakistan are CONFUSED! dont k...The people living in Pakistan are CONFUSED! dont know what they are following!<br />and same is true for most of us commenting here...including me.!<br /><br />"...the pusillanimous and opportunistic silence over the treatment of minorities such as Ahmadis,..."<br /><br />do u think Ahmadis are just a mere minority?! Or they are going against the principles of Islam??<br /><br />bloody modernization!! forgetting the grave we will be buried any moment!<br /><br />Taseer or Qadri! decision will be made by ALLAH! So no use of arguing and debating when none of us know the real facts! only gossips!!<br /><br />Apart from the running debate...<br />U must have noticed the aggression in finding the real cause behind Taseer's murder...!! I wish that sort of aggression was present for Benazir's murder investigation!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-76322173318777181402011-01-06T14:37:10.410+05:002011-01-06T14:37:10.410+05:00I DONT THINK SALAM TASEER deserve what Qadri has d...I DONT THINK SALAM TASEER deserve what Qadri has done is a crime and he should be punish for it. who give a rite to Qadri to kill someone when his own crime is not less then other. only allah have a rite to judge his own people. i hate how these people murder and kill others in the name of ISALAM AND IN THE NAME OF Prophet(PBUH). when in reality they dont even care about the religon but just if someone say something they end up killing them in the name of ISLAM. when islam does not teach you to murder other. Islam is a religon of peace and love but people like Qadri use the name of islam in wrong ways. i wish may allah guide others and teach them the true meaning of being a good muslim and fallow the islam the right way and the way Qadir fallowed. i wish he get death sentace for killing the inncoent and people who think Qadri is hero are also fallowing the path of hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-34686416428687998652011-01-06T12:54:07.997+05:002011-01-06T12:54:07.997+05:00Jinnah said that Pakistan would be a lab for exper...Jinnah said that Pakistan would be a lab for experimentation in Islam. Experimentation will always cause continuous explosions in this lab. In hindsight, it can be said that partition was a bad idea. Muslim league lead by secular Jinnah used religion to attain political power. He didn’t even know the basics of Islam. He never offered prayers, never observed fasts, never went to a mosque, never performed Hajj, loved whiskey and ate pork, never mentioned a single verse from Quran or Hadees and partied with the elite class of India. <br /><br />Religion is still being used to hold on to power. Instead of the army doing the fighting, the poor kids got killed in Afghanistan and Kashmir. The fortress of Islam narrative is essential to justify a huge military budget. Mullahs reversed the land reforms and protected the feudals. The main concern for business class is profit. Murder of Salman Taseer is a rare case, normally theocracy or religious extremism has no affect on the elite. <br />Nobody will be allowed to explode himself in Lahore Gymkhana, Cantt or DHA clubs. Only the ordinary man will suffer. Even in case of Salman Taseer, the security was sufficient; it was a case of bad choice of security guards. Historically, our caliphs had harms of 100s of women and they were not bound by any Sharia. The solution is simple: GET RICHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-77249280405245659092011-01-06T12:17:15.952+05:002011-01-06T12:17:15.952+05:00anon@10:57. Interesting that you refer to popular ...anon@10:57. Interesting that you refer to popular western song lyrics, use a western language, and use social medias which are a direct product of western research and productivity - to vent your ideas. I am not a fan of Mr. Taseer at all. But I am not a fan of those who disfigure Islam and hold it up for ridicule by committing acts that are abhorrent to the spirit of a religion that was and is - ahead of its time in many ways, promotes ideas of education, tolerance, rationality and progress. There is repeated stress on not spreading 'fasaad' and hate-mongering is just that. If you can preach tolerance and save one life, you will have saved humanity (in the words of the Quran). We are enjoined to follow the Sunnah - not one example in the Prophet's life suggests that we kill or encourage and applaud killing of such nature. Do we (liberals / extremists / all) really know WHAT Islam is???!!!Nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353505353059156760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-88752803928237740622011-01-06T12:01:45.858+05:002011-01-06T12:01:45.858+05:00The concept of “True Islam” and “Pakistan is a for...The concept of “True Islam” and “Pakistan is a fort of Islam” have all ready driven the country down. However, bickering here will not achieve much. The question is what we can do to counteract this religious fanaticism. I do not know, neither does anyone here. Which is the fundamental issue: we (the ones referred to as liberal or non-islamo-fanatics) do not have a unifying ideology. We come, we bicker, and we go. Our pseudo-intellectual view of the world keeps us safe in our bubble. We object on cyber-space and on coffee tables at cafes. We have to move past our bubbles and our safety nets if we truly want to see the change we envision. <br /><br />(When Musharaf pulled the 3rd November Emergency, I was in a college back then my journey into activism began from a coffee table at CTC in Lahore. The difference was that that table was full of people there to make a difference and not just discuss it.)<br /><br />I am not saying pick up a gun and fight, hell no, I am more non-violence than the most lot. At least come together on a consensus on important points and support each other in the cause. Brainstorm as to how we can counter act such hate full voices. Rally journalists, anchors, religious figures, family members, who-ever and everyone around you to instil that change. Preach your ideas to the people around you without threatening their belief system (This last sentence can be a dangerous one, but do you have an option here.)<br /><br />Do we have an option? <br />Yes, we do: ‘Speak now or be silent forever’ OR ‘speak now and BE silenced forever.’ <br />This land is as much mine as it is yours. I have a say and I will make it sound.<br /><br />________________________________________<br />“Then they came for me<br />and by that time no one was left to speak up.”paghalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365754954275800548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-3066158889118097122011-01-06T11:49:45.102+05:002011-01-06T11:49:45.102+05:00Sheer madness and nothing else prevails in the cou...Sheer madness and nothing else prevails in the country these days and the credit goes to none other than the nerd ass**** Ziaul Haq (May his soul remain restless and in agony). We all need to stand up, fight back and reclaim whatever sanity is left in this impoverished country.Kashif Irshadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07925009423121884082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-45544796667003237232011-01-06T09:10:13.421+05:002011-01-06T09:10:13.421+05:00I have a simple message:
"Pakism sucks"I have a simple message:<br />"Pakism sucks"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-52177964623892487402011-01-06T05:37:58.242+05:002011-01-06T05:37:58.242+05:00we should fight against extremism but not by arms...we should fight against extremism but not by arms or getting as insane as the fanatics get.<br /><br />but by rational and calculated moves.MAYA AIESHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13160670047301448270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-6265462048351019872011-01-06T03:37:59.157+05:002011-01-06T03:37:59.157+05:00I feel the pain of my brothers and sisters in paki...I feel the pain of my brothers and sisters in pakistan.It is easy forme to watch on Tv In the USA but you guys are in it with all those crazy Mullhas and helpless so called civil society <br />SO sad nothing good is coming out of pakistan afsoos so afsooszafarusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08510411669835256123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-86344068620205786152011-01-06T02:13:33.317+05:002011-01-06T02:13:33.317+05:00@Anon 12:54 AM:
"Another group, be it secula...@Anon 12:54 AM:<br /><br />"Another group, be it secular or not, won't help because then you'll ask for yet another one to root it out when it gets corrupt."<br /><br />This is a strawman. No one is staking the claim that a secular governance can never be corrupt. Moreover, what makes you think that corruption is the only reason why people would want to root out a government?<br /><br />"But remember, when they jerk you off, don't fight."<br /><br />That depends on what you mean by "jerk you off."Anandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-33725592304289912592011-01-06T02:06:10.724+05:002011-01-06T02:06:10.724+05:00I agree with you! Very well said! The real questio...I agree with you! Very well said! The real question that should be asked now is how to counter this sort of mentality that not only the entire perspective of the society changes, but also that such events don't ever take place! <br /><br />That is the real battle that needs to be won!Varda Nisarhttp://www.holygypsy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-19341145913650383582011-01-06T00:54:57.839+05:002011-01-06T00:54:57.839+05:00Yawwwnnn.... I hear same verbose shit from you guy...Yawwwnnn.... I hear same verbose shit from you guys every day without any action. You just talk of ideologies and what should happen without getting off your fat ass.<br /><br />Another group, be it secular or not, won't help because then you'll ask for yet another one to root it out when it gets corrupt.<br /><br />Want a practical solution? Start with your own house, your school, your office and preach tolerance. Make people understand that its ok to disagree, its ok to have blatantly controversial perspectives on everything including religion, God, Mohammad, Shahid Afridi and everything in between. But remember, when they jerk you off, don't fight. Be persistent yet polite.<br /><br />I know that will take years and years, so start already as this is he only solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-25340013972300260302011-01-06T00:53:12.209+05:002011-01-06T00:53:12.209+05:00Zainab Akram: It is indeed black law and those who...Zainab Akram: It is indeed black law and those who support it are nothing but twisted warped criminals like you put it,For whatever its worth I for one am not going to shut up about it. May Allah rest Salman Taseer's soul in peace.zainab akramnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-5888148466200282232011-01-06T00:34:21.110+05:002011-01-06T00:34:21.110+05:00i completely agree with the article posted by cafe...i completely agree with the article posted by cafe pyala and the comments chandrabhan has made. It is disturbing to see that in the 21'st century pakistani masses by and large are driven towards the ideologies and dictats which belong to the middle ages and threaten to pull them back to the life that was common place in those hard and ruthless times of invasions and forced conversions. I personally believe god did not make any religion it was all the handiwork of men in the name of "god" ..peaceGotham3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-76179583786844375012011-01-05T23:39:45.194+05:002011-01-05T23:39:45.194+05:00@Butool,
My take on Salmaan Taseer's intent wh...@Butool,<br />My take on Salmaan Taseer's intent when he took up the mission to go against the blasphemy law is his arrogance. He just lost touch with the reality of fast radicalising Pakistan. <br /><br />He thought that belonging to the rich and elite, with his fingers in each pie in Punjab, the support of Zardari (and thereby the west) ensured immunity from the masses. Living in that protective bubble had made him deulsional, cut off from the reality of the real pakistan in the slums and the galis. Well, the protective bubble has just burst, he and the other elite just got a rude wake up call. <br /><br />One more truth us that If people like him (Position of pwer, Connected and resourceful whom people look upto) don't stand up for rationalism and human values then who else can? I think he realised his responsibility too well<br /><br />The rich have lands and Army background to support, Poor, landless have nothing except religion to cling on. They were promised Pakistan to be the homeland and heaven for muslims and to keep them focussed the Genie of islam was invoked.<br /><br />They will not allow any dilution of Islam or Islamism. Pretending to be purer than the 'Bedouin' and corrupt Arabs has become the Goal - they have no control on any resources and no industries worth it's name to work and uplift themselves. hardly any good schools and Colleges.<br /><br />This is what has happened in Taseer's case. Pakistan is at crossroads. Like Julius caesar was warned not to go to senate by soothsayer, Wife and omens, He still went to senate and got murdered. that shook the foundations of Roman republic and it became a Kingdom and the whole structure got changed. Romans were lucky they had Antony. <br /><br />Who will bring in change here and take on the Genie of Mullahcracy and "Whoever has a gun decides who is more pious"<br /><br />Protect Sherry Rehaman and others, the whole world is watchinBrahamvakyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864729826013229860noreply@blogger.com