tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post8839514896291639756..comments2023-10-28T17:24:41.752+05:00Comments on Cafe Pyala: Shah Mahmood Qureshi - One or Two Things I Know About HimXYZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17120968316026139059noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-16104805091177809342011-07-21T10:29:22.049+05:002011-07-21T10:29:22.049+05:00Incidentally, I like the way you have structured y...Incidentally, I like the way you have structured your site, it is super and very easy to follow. I have bookmarked you and will be back regularly. Thank you<br /><br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">Web Design</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-13948289913132432872011-02-24T17:07:50.963+05:002011-02-24T17:07:50.963+05:00ops... sorry for the double comment bro
my browse...ops... sorry for the double comment bro<br /><br />my browser thingy has got some cache problems I guess..<br /><br />sorry for it :)Talibannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-87168063372734196192011-02-24T17:05:50.745+05:002011-02-24T17:05:50.745+05:00ROSHAN KHAYALS... :P
i love that term ... :P
hah...ROSHAN KHAYALS... :P<br /><br />i love that term ... :P<br /><br />hahah<br /><br />so basically you guys have decided that If "anyone" talks against USA or some "corrupt" thing or against "PPP" or against any "of your roshan khayal theories" <br /><br />HE/SHE IS ACTING & LYING <br /><br />I wonder if you guys have heard Hazrat Ali (R,H) quote that, <br />"LISTEN WHAT A PERSON IS SAYING, DO NOT CONSIDER WHO IS SAYING...."<br /><br />Oh..sorry..since Hazrat Ali (R,H) was not a ROSHAN KHAYAL..so you guys for sure not read his quotes. Anyway..<br /><br />so basically there is a group in our country (call themselves ROSHAN KHAYAL lately) which has decided to OPPOSE every single person out there.. doing any notable thing to try to create a confident or better image of Pakistan.<br />(OBVIOUSLY YOUR DEFINITION OF CONFIDENT AND BETTER IMAGE OF PAKISTAN IS VEENA MALIK :P )<br /><br />If some corrupt person apologizes for his corruption or take a stand for something that can be beneficial to our nation....<br />you guys start digging his past to prove that he is not sincere and his act should not be appreciated. You guys start defaming him with every possible way.<br /><br />Its somewhat like if a robber condemns a rape, as per your ROSHAN KHAYAL ideology, he is lying and acting and then you start digging data regarding his character, his past, etc to prove that people SHOULD NOT LISTEN TO THAT ROBBER....<br /><br />I wonder why there is no post from you guys regarding "USA SHOULD attack Pakistan to rescue MR RAYMOND DAVIS" after all USA is a Roshan khayal and it has every right on the earth to do so :P<br /><br />Thats basically what FREE MEDIA has done :)<br />every single ROSHAN KHAYAL teenager is trying to GO AGAINST anyone who got some attention ..:P .. basically you are doing the same....<br /><br /> WHY HE .... WHY NOT ME :P<br /><br /><br />@Anonymous aka BRAVE ROSHAN KHAYAL<br />dude why are you doing everything humanly (even non-humanly) possible to prove that raymond thing ..oh sorry... MR RAYMOND DAVIS.... has a diplomatic passport :P ...I mean even Pakistan Foreign Minister & Ministry itself has not issued an official statement yet,.,but you are trying like a fanatic ...oh sorry...i meant... ROSHAN KHAYAL ...to prove that he has one...I guess YOU issued that DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT to davis :P<br />calm down kiddo :P seems that you are reading cafe piyala a lot :P<br /><br /><br />AND WAITTTTT...LOOK WHO IS TALKING BOUT EGO...hahahahTalibannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-1563768796461421212011-02-24T17:05:40.243+05:002011-02-24T17:05:40.243+05:00ROSHAN KHAYALS... :P
i love that term ... :P
hah...ROSHAN KHAYALS... :P<br /><br />i love that term ... :P<br /><br />hahah<br /><br />so basically you guys have decided that If "anyone" talks against USA or some "corrupt" thing or against "PPP" or against any "of your roshan khayal theories" <br /><br />HE/SHE IS ACTING & LYING <br /><br />I wonder if you guys have heard Hazrat Ali (R,H) quote that, <br />"LISTEN WHAT A PERSON IS SAYING, DO NOT CONSIDER WHO IS SAYING...."<br /><br />Oh..sorry..since Hazrat Ali (R,H) was not a ROSHAN KHAYAL..so you guys for sure not read his quotes. Anyway..<br /><br />so basically there is a group in our country (call themselves ROSHAN KHAYAL lately) which has decided to OPPOSE every single person out there.. doing any notable thing to try to create a confident or better image of Pakistan.<br />(OBVIOUSLY YOUR DEFINITION OF CONFIDENT AND BETTER IMAGE OF PAKISTAN IS VEENA MALIK :P )<br /><br />If some corrupt person apologizes for his corruption or take a stand for something that can be beneficial to our nation....<br />you guys start digging his past to prove that he is not sincere and his act should not be appreciated. You guys start defaming him with every possible way.<br /><br />Its somewhat like if a robber condemns a rape, as per your ROSHAN KHAYAL ideology, he is lying and acting and then you start digging data regarding his character, his past, etc to prove that people SHOULD NOT LISTEN TO THAT ROBBER....<br /><br />I wonder why there is no post from you guys regarding "USA SHOULD attack Pakistan to rescue MR RAYMOND DAVIS" after all USA is a Roshan khayal and it has every right on the earth to do so :P<br /><br />Thats basically what FREE MEDIA has done :)<br />every single ROSHAN KHAYAL teenager is trying to GO AGAINST anyone who got some attention ..:P .. basically you are doing the same....<br /><br /> WHY HE .... WHY NOT ME :P<br /><br /><br />@Anonymous aka BRAVE ROSHAN KHAYAL<br />dude why are you doing everything humanly (even non-humanly) possible to prove that raymond thing ..oh sorry... MR RAYMOND DAVIS.... has a diplomatic passport :P ...I mean even Pakistan Foreign Minister & Ministry itself has not issued an official statement yet,.,but you are trying like a fanatic ...oh sorry...i meant... ROSHAN KHAYAL ...to prove that he has one...I guess YOU issued that DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT to davis :P<br />calm down kiddo :P seems that you are reading cafe piyala a lot :P<br /><br /><br />AND WAITTTTT...LOOK WHO IS TALKING BOUT EGO...hahahahTalibannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-66441074505887648832011-02-23T08:07:52.755+05:002011-02-23T08:07:52.755+05:00Oscar worthy indeed! Should generate good parodies...Oscar worthy indeed! Should generate good parodies on youtube.Agnostic Monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718035081147979548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-1441809330783246412011-02-23T05:54:50.928+05:002011-02-23T05:54:50.928+05:00@BZ...this is not the first time that the US press...@BZ...this is not the first time that the US press has colluded with the US government and witheld important news stories for the sake of "national security". Remember the Abu Gharaib incident in Iraq; the US media knew about the whole episode many months in advance and it was only after they thought that the story might be leaked out from somewhere else that they actually went with the story. Similarly, in the Davis case only after the UK based Guardian newspaper went out with the Davis being a CIA agent as a story that the other US newspapers went out with this.<br /><br />Basically, I think the US media has become the partner of the US corporate right wing establishment specifically as far as US foreign relations are concerned. They have become irrelevant. People in the US who want to get the truth have to rely on foreign news service like the BBC and AlJazeera.Yusaf Khannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-31545780716296243462011-02-23T04:17:33.785+05:002011-02-23T04:17:33.785+05:00This blog reminded me of this classic Seinfeld bit...This blog reminded me of this classic Seinfeld bit:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KBtYG6BZrg<br /><br />Enjoy!Anandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-604288276736798572011-02-22T20:34:56.117+05:002011-02-22T20:34:56.117+05:00"...there is never any excuse for a newspaper..."...there is never any excuse for a newspaper to mislead the public". Read Greenwald's excellent analysis of what NYT referred to as an act of temporarily withholding information. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/21/nyt/index.htmlBZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-36319739545028780022011-02-22T17:07:37.890+05:002011-02-22T17:07:37.890+05:00واہ کیفے پیالہ والو ! ذرا جاوید چودھری کا مضمون بھ...واہ کیفے پیالہ والو ! ذرا جاوید چودھری کا مضمون بھی پڑھ لیں<br /><br />http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101175565&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20110222<br /><br />مزید معلومات درکار ہوں تو میرے بلاگ کا ایک چکر لگا آئیںSakib Ahmadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684519231128535788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-51751921700193754022011-02-22T13:08:31.804+05:002011-02-22T13:08:31.804+05:00Shah mehmood clearly has a case of hubrisShah mehmood clearly has a case of hubrisPen Pakistanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10511501637002491258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-59184008240688336992011-02-22T05:29:09.121+05:002011-02-22T05:29:09.121+05:00Who does anyone think the next foreign minister mi...Who does anyone think the next foreign minister might likely be? And to what extent will the Davis case influence the decision as to who is to be the next foreign minister will be? <br /><br />The government is very short on options, lets just hope they dont promote Firdos Ashiq Awan to that post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-12705691778996776462011-02-22T05:22:46.072+05:002011-02-22T05:22:46.072+05:00whatever SMQ may say, and whether or not ZH is tar...whatever SMQ may say, and whether or not ZH is targeting him out of spite, and even putting aside the issue of the circumstances in which Davis shot the men, a statement of the venerable interior minister might be the most technically pertinent to this whole debate. davis had a diplomatic passport and was certified as such when given a visa -- which is not an anomaly in *any* country's intelligence operations. even pakistan sends intelligence operatives to countries under diplomatic cover. that visa was extended or renewed in islamabad after further verification by the isi, who obviously would have known what davis' role was. diplomatic immunity applies.<br /><br />that being said, what's complicated the situation is people's anger about why another country's intelligence operative should be allowed to get away with shooting people. for those who want to see davis put on trial, it would seem that the track to question the immunity isn't really productive. better to question the whole structure under which the various security contractors and spies have been operating within pakistan *with the knowledge and in cooperation with the local authorities*. certainly for SMQ to now pose as a principled dissenter just because the arrangement went off the rails is, to put it politely, disingenuous bullshit. but yes, as someone said, that's what politicians do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-76232949541211313522011-02-22T04:18:55.165+05:002011-02-22T04:18:55.165+05:00Working for the CIA does not preclude one from hav...Working for the CIA does not preclude one from having diplomatic immunity.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-13324748067408219892011-02-22T01:49:47.271+05:002011-02-22T01:49:47.271+05:00There is also the report published in the Guardian...There is also the report published in the Guardian:<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/20/us-raymond-davis-lahore-cia<br /><br />In the light of reports appearing in the West, any attempt by the Zardari-Gilani government to give immunity to Davis could well result in the downfall of this corrupt government.Sakib Ahmadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684519231128535788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-71875891558827157012011-02-21T23:03:02.863+05:002011-02-21T23:03:02.863+05:00I am so glad that you are not posting anything on ...I am so glad that you are not posting anything on Mr. Davis lately. Who would like to tarnish one's image now that the NY Times -- yes, that emotional, sentimental, almost Urdu-medium newspaper -- has come out with revelations mentioning CIA and Blackwater/Xe. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/world/asia/22pakistan.htmlBZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-79534183852145827762011-02-21T10:23:41.335+05:002011-02-21T10:23:41.335+05:00Zafar Hilaly writes: "When Qureshi declared t...Zafar Hilaly writes: "When Qureshi declared them innocent, not even the police had made up their minds, what to speak of the court where the trial has yet to begin. Was he trying to say that he knew that Davis is a homicidal maniac because who else will kill people merely because they were hanging around his car?"<br /><br />The police & courts haven't made up their mind but Zafar Hilaly certainly has - that Davis is not a homicidal maniac so the victims must not be innocent. <br /><br />Secondly, his point that NO ONE person in government is remotely competent to determine whether Davis had immunity or not is just stupid & without any merit. If anyone in the country is supposed to know which foreign national has & who hasn't gotten diplomatic immunity it should be the foreign office. How the hell will an independent expert know this? It is like suggesting that to verify say a degree from Karachi University you should go to an independent expert since the staff at KU is very incompetent.<br /><br />The article wreaks of professional jealousy. He is right about SMQ's performance but he should remember Shah Mahmood is a politician & did what all politicians do. <br /><br />And isn't it very clear by now that the Americans have a weak case & that Raymond Davis does not enjoy diplomatic immunity. If he did there is no way in hell the Pakistani government would have held him for how long he has been held in prison. In the end we will probably have to let him go because he is an American & not because he enjoyed diplomatic immunity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-64680330855134173712011-02-21T03:40:40.659+05:002011-02-21T03:40:40.659+05:00He speaks like the majority of debaters that take ...He speaks like the majority of debaters that take part in inter-school competitions :/<br />Very fake. Very phony. Very immature.Brieshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-41465731693258760822011-02-20T22:47:49.006+05:002011-02-20T22:47:49.006+05:00SMQ has managed to project himself as the next Jam...SMQ has managed to project himself as the next Jamali/Shaukat Aziz in waiting.May be he wont have to wait for too long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-50484231943955772692011-02-20T20:51:21.792+05:002011-02-20T20:51:21.792+05:00SMQ keeps banging the drum about Raymond Davis has...SMQ keeps banging the drum about Raymond Davis has no diplomatic immunity. He claimed he was informed by 2 FO officials about it. <br /><br />Fine.<br /><br />SMQ should articulate a clear legal reasoning behind such a decision, citing both international and pakistani law. the man is articulate so he should have no problem making the argument. <br /><br />And who are these two FO officials? what authority do they have? what expertise do they have in determining raymond davis' diplomatic status?<br /><br />The press should be asking these questions, but they are not.<br /><br />I think amb. hilaly covers the rest quite nicely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-50360435288757770902011-02-20T18:38:48.041+05:002011-02-20T18:38:48.041+05:00SQM has always reminded me of a vacuum cleaner. Wh...SQM has always reminded me of a vacuum cleaner. Why didn't he ever take speech lessons!<br /><br /> teergiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-61007069883170101762011-02-20T18:06:58.416+05:002011-02-20T18:06:58.416+05:00Someone needs to do a Lloyd Bentsen on SMQ but I ...Someone needs to do a Lloyd Bentsen on SMQ but I am way too young for that SMQ, "you're no ZAB".takhalusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-91679935035767293572011-02-20T17:09:38.183+05:002011-02-20T17:09:38.183+05:00You guys do realise that a few decades from now, t...You guys do realise that a few decades from now, the entire political scenario in Pakistan will make for a fantastic Bollywood film. I can almost visualise Raymond Davis with a gun in his hand going "Kutte kameene, mein tera khoon pee jaoonga" Zardari will be a sidey-role played by Johny Lever and Zion Hamid looking at Sherry Rehman and going "Ha ha ha.... ab tujhe kaun bachayega"Indian readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-11539984152362379052011-02-20T14:22:13.388+05:002011-02-20T14:22:13.388+05:00SMQ will remebered as Destroyer/Terminator of PPP,...SMQ will remebered as Destroyer/Terminator of PPP, in the long run .<br />Now everybody knows AZ will face tough task in coming elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-75463450892183202962011-02-20T12:36:38.751+05:002011-02-20T12:36:38.751+05:00"For one, the man has an ego the size of Mult..."For one, the man has an ego the size of Multan"<br /><br />LOL. That says it all. Great post Pyala, but this might dissapoint the usual designer patriots who've been hailing him as the new Bhutto! God have mercy.Magnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110720279777344316.post-76129865686587490102011-02-20T09:34:01.130+05:002011-02-20T09:34:01.130+05:00I seriously doubt that military & establishmen...I seriously doubt that military & establishment have their man in SQM. Despite his sauve persona and long career, he lacks the cutting edge and appeal as well as the connection with the people.<br /><br />He was unable to cast an impression or seriously threaten NS even at provincial level, even when the latter was in exile.<br /><br />SQM has been switching boats between PPP & PML in the past and it would be interesting to see how he tackles the challenge from pirs and murshids- the rivals and giants such as PM Gillani & Javed Hashmi- even at the local level.Deliriumhttp://www.formerlydelirious.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com